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		<title>By: Lana</title>
		<link>http://www.tilou-milou.dlpwd.co.uk/2007/10/23/tv-links/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Lana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep up the good work.</description>
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		<title>By: tabsybelle</title>
		<link>http://www.tilou-milou.dlpwd.co.uk/2007/10/23/tv-links/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>tabsybelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cicero - "Well, if somebody helped another with a crime such as murder, we’d expect them to be in the dock as well - after all, they’ve just assisted making a large number of people a lot worse off. ".
There is, I think, a large distinction to be made between murder and breach of copyright. It might be ethical in principle to treat the two the same way, but it is completely different - for one thing, assisting in murder is actualyl defined as a crime, whereas making it easier to access illegal content is not. It may affect more people, but in far less ways - production companies are increasingly looking towards other wasy to generate the moeny they lose through copyright infringement, such as product placement and so on.

TV Links Man was just providing a service to the people of the internet in terms of making locating things faster. There's a few hundred other sites that do the same, as the article mentions. And, as the information's out on teh web anyway, anyone who really did want to dedicate themselves to watching such and such a program would run extensive searches on Google etc to find it - it would still be around. 

But the irony, like you said, is that anyone who does spend such a long time hunting for it would probably be a big fan, and so would buy the DVDs anyway, if just for the extras/better quality. So yes, I do agree with your last point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cicero - &#8220;Well, if somebody helped another with a crime such as murder, we’d expect them to be in the dock as well - after all, they’ve just assisted making a large number of people a lot worse off. &#8220;.<br />
There is, I think, a large distinction to be made between murder and breach of copyright. It might be ethical in principle to treat the two the same way, but it is completely different - for one thing, assisting in murder is actualyl defined as a crime, whereas making it easier to access illegal content is not. It may affect more people, but in far less ways - production companies are increasingly looking towards other wasy to generate the moeny they lose through copyright infringement, such as product placement and so on.</p>
<p>TV Links Man was just providing a service to the people of the internet in terms of making locating things faster. There&#8217;s a few hundred other sites that do the same, as the article mentions. And, as the information&#8217;s out on teh web anyway, anyone who really did want to dedicate themselves to watching such and such a program would run extensive searches on Google etc to find it - it would still be around. </p>
<p>But the irony, like you said, is that anyone who does spend such a long time hunting for it would probably be a big fan, and so would buy the DVDs anyway, if just for the extras/better quality. So yes, I do agree with your last point.</p>
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		<title>By: Cicero</title>
		<link>http://www.tilou-milou.dlpwd.co.uk/2007/10/23/tv-links/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if somebody helped another with a crime such as murder, we'd expect them to be in the dock as well - after all, they've just assisted making a large number of people a lot worse off. Now, in principle, the same thing should happen with TV Links - clearly the motive here is to help others break the law.

However, in practice, the reason we have restrictions on intellectual property is so we don't discourage the production of creative works - after all, people would have less incentive to produce movies, television programmes and songs if they'll only get very little benefit from them. Nonetheless, the current lengths of copyrights are far too long - one study found the optimal length is only fourteen years, rather than the decades we currently have. Whilst people do consider their immediate benefit when producing, rarely does anyone think eighty years down the line.

So, how does this affect TV Links? Well, clearly it allows people to show that they're not willing to take the monopolistic abuse of the current copyright laws and therefore I'd say it was in the public interest; clearly, it would be wrong to prosecute somebody who was acting for the good of the nation.

In any case, it's not as if the alternative to watching TV links is buying the programmes: in a sense, they're complements (if I find a new programme I like, I may go out and buy it). Or, in most cases, they're bad-quality YouTube clips people only watch to procrastinate worthwhile things; if it was taken away, they'd do something else rather than buy the shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if somebody helped another with a crime such as murder, we&#8217;d expect them to be in the dock as well - after all, they&#8217;ve just assisted making a large number of people a lot worse off. Now, in principle, the same thing should happen with TV Links - clearly the motive here is to help others break the law.</p>
<p>However, in practice, the reason we have restrictions on intellectual property is so we don&#8217;t discourage the production of creative works - after all, people would have less incentive to produce movies, television programmes and songs if they&#8217;ll only get very little benefit from them. Nonetheless, the current lengths of copyrights are far too long - one study found the optimal length is only fourteen years, rather than the decades we currently have. Whilst people do consider their immediate benefit when producing, rarely does anyone think eighty years down the line.</p>
<p>So, how does this affect TV Links? Well, clearly it allows people to show that they&#8217;re not willing to take the monopolistic abuse of the current copyright laws and therefore I&#8217;d say it was in the public interest; clearly, it would be wrong to prosecute somebody who was acting for the good of the nation.</p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s not as if the alternative to watching TV links is buying the programmes: in a sense, they&#8217;re complements (if I find a new programme I like, I may go out and buy it). Or, in most cases, they&#8217;re bad-quality YouTube clips people only watch to procrastinate worthwhile things; if it was taken away, they&#8217;d do something else rather than buy the shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Tabs</title>
		<link>http://www.tilou-milou.dlpwd.co.uk/2007/10/23/tv-links/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Tabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utterly ridiculous.
The internet - especially the blagosphere - wouldn't work without deep-linking, I can't see that ever working.
And unless tvlinks was profiting heavily from advertising (which I spose it probably was) I can't find anything immoral in what they were doing. They were providing a service in terms of compiling links together - it's not their fault that the content available was all illegal.
And, like someone on the comments pointed out, it was educational in the sense that it promoted documentaries and things.FACT seem a bit confused - the fine's astronomical. 
I hope he's let off this, I really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utterly ridiculous.<br />
The internet - especially the blagosphere - wouldn&#8217;t work without deep-linking, I can&#8217;t see that ever working.<br />
And unless tvlinks was profiting heavily from advertising (which I spose it probably was) I can&#8217;t find anything immoral in what they were doing. They were providing a service in terms of compiling links together - it&#8217;s not their fault that the content available was all illegal.<br />
And, like someone on the comments pointed out, it was educational in the sense that it promoted documentaries and things.FACT seem a bit confused - the fine&#8217;s astronomical.<br />
I hope he&#8217;s let off this, I really do.</p>
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